Two Republicans join Democratic campaign to force Trump to release his taxes

 

Keep doing what you're doing. You are doing a fine job.

Think about it. What does Trump gain at this point by releasing his tax returns?

He is already in the oval office. He can't improve on that by releasing his tax returns.
If he should release them his unsupporters would gather around and glare at the shiny bauble, digging through for any hint of anything they can broadcast to deflect attention from Trump's plan for America and demonize him.

Cause, you know, everything else they have isn't getting much mileage and most of their "stories" are getting a bit long in the tooth to still be of interest.

It would be like Obama releasing his college transcripts or his birth certificate after he was in office. No positive gain for him, so why bother?

Of course, tit for tat is acceptable practice in American politics today; Republicans (especially Trump) hounded Obama for most of the 8 years he was in office on his birth certificate, so it appears Trump can just expect the same from the unsupporters.

 

What Trump, and the public could gain from Trump releasing his tax returns, would be clarification of his innocence, or guilt of potential collusion, reciprocal obligations, or loyalties with other foreign political entities through his financial endeavors. At some point, if not released, the public, as well as the political arena, will assume there's guilt .

 

Even during the campaign, most of the people who were demanding his tax returns were making wild and crazy claims as to what would be learned from them. Most of it was naivety. They would have learned almost nothing from his personal returns, since most of his business and philanthropic activities are conducted through other entities, all of which have different US Tax ID numbers. Trump was never going to release the tax returns of the 500-odd corporate entities under the umbrella of Trump Enterprises. Those are not personal returns. They are corporate returns.

Sometimes I think that most of the people who are demanding his tax returns have never graduated from the 1040EZ form.

 

They might have learned that he paid fuck all in tax which says a lot to his blue collar supporters!

G'night all!

Thinskin

 

Not against the law to pay as little as possible in taxes in this country....

everyone does it if they have a way to do it legally....

Learned Hand, was an American judge famous as an avid supporter of free speech and for applying economic reasoning to American tort law. He is noted as one of the most influential American judges to have never served on the Supreme Court of the United States.

“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands.”


Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women;
when it dies there, no constitution, no law,
no court can save it; no constitution, no law,
no court can even do much to help it.

 

Naivety again.

You're not participating in the American system, so you can be excused. But there are millions of bobbleheads who agree with you.

Here's the thing: In April 2018, Donald Trump is personally going to pay zero in income taxes. He is not taking compensation for his work as president, and he has moved all corporate holdings off to his kids and to trusts. So, zero personal earned income, which equals zero personal income tax.

If on a given year his companies verged on bankruptcy, it is likely that he personally took zero compensation in salary. Thus he would pay zero. And if his accountants lawfully amortized the corporate debt for the allowable span of years, as they are lawfully required to do as his fiduciaries, then once again it is likely that he, personally, may not have drawn salaries on those years, and thus would have paid zero personal income tax.


Yet, one would not learn the particulars of any of these accounting transactions from his personal returns alone, because they would only have told half of the story. So, as Randy, Shooter and others say, the tax returns would be bones for all the vultures to pick over, and nothing more.

Take heart, though, little camper. There is a federal organization that has been watching ALL of his ledgers like a hawk for going on forty years: the Internal Revenue Service. He is regularly audited, and he has never been charged by the IRS for tax evasion.

Why that inconvenient truth is not sufficient for the whiners, I can't begin to imagine.

 

The only ''public'' that is concerned about Trump's Tax returns, are those that are searching high and low for more of the ''gotcha moments''.

Trump won the election, without releasing his Tax returns...Hillary LOST the election without Trump releasing his Tax records.

You leftists can disguise your emotional concerns about the ''misdeeds'' of Trump and his administration, and his Cabinet, in any manner you leftists wish, yet, and the end of the day, we all see through the charade.

 

Shooter knows what the whiners are hoping for.
That they find a deduction for
"Whores for evening entertainment"
and
"Hotel surcharge for stained sheets"

Not knowing how it really works.
No matter.

 

So, if nothing could be learned from his returns, why is he reluctant to show them?

 

The same Russian ambassador that the media and Democrats are up in arms over visited the Obama White House and met with White House officials at least 22 times, and several of those visits were in 2016 during the election:

Put this with the fact that Obama promised Medvedev and Putin that he’d be more flexible after he won the election and you’ve got yourself a…

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Obama has Trump wiretapped before the election....

The idea that FISA could be used against political enemies always seemed far-fetched. Now it might not be.

The Obama Justice Department and the FBI sought FISA warrants against Trump insiders, and potentially against Donald Trump himself, during the last months and weeks of the presidential campaign. It’s an interesting revelation, particularly in light of last fall’s media consternation over “banana republic” tactics against political adversaries, triggered by Trump’s vow to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate serious allegations of criminal misconduct against Hillary Clinton — consternation echoed by Senate Democrats during Tuesday’s confirmation hearing for attorney-general nominee Jeff Sessions.

From the three reports, from the Guardian, Heat Street, and the New York Times, it appears the FBI had concerns about a private server in Trump Tower that was connected to one or two Russian banks. Heat Street describes these concerns as centering on “possible financial and banking offenses.” I italicize the word “offenses” because it denotes crimes.

Ordinarily, when crimes are suspected, there is a criminal investigation, not a national-security investigation. According to the New York Times (based on FBI sources), the FBI initially determined that the Trump Tower server did not have “any nefarious purpose.” But then, Heat Street says, “the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server.”

Again, agents do not ordinarily draw FISA requests around possible crimes. Possible crimes prompt applications for regular criminal wiretaps because the objective is to prosecute any such crimes in court. (It is rare and controversial to use FISA wiretaps in criminal prosecutions.) FISA applications, to the contrary, are drawn around people suspected of being operatives of a (usually hostile) foreign power.

The first [FISA] request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; [sic] SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

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Flynn was targeted by Obama loyalists in SECRET campaign
to protect Iran Deal!

Free Beacon quoting multiple sources in and out of the White House that say it was Obama loyalists, including Ben Rhodes, who targeted Flynn in a secret campaign to protect Obama’s Iran Deal:

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn’s credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration’s efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump’s inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump’s national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beacon first reported on this effort in January.

Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon requested anonymity in order to speak freely about the situation and avoid interfering with the White House’s official narrative about Flynn, which centers on his failure to adequately inform the president about a series of phone calls with Russian officials.

Just DAYS before Trump’s inaugural, Obama EXPANDED the NSA’s wiretapping powers…


One of the unresolved questions about Mike Flynn’s resignation is just how he was recorded talking to a Russian ambassador before the election. Well, Michael Walsh at PJMedia noticed this little noticed article right before Trump took power about how Obama expanded the powers of the NSA.

In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agenciesbefore applying privacy protections.

The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches.

The change means that far more officials will be searching through raw data. Essentially, the government is reducing the risk that the N.S.A. will fail to recognize that a piece of information would be valuable to another agency, but increasing the risk that officials will see private information about innocent people.

So not only do we have a media who hates Trump, but we’ve got former Obama officials working with them in tandem to target Flynn and whoever else they believe will help them protect Obama’s horrible Iran deal.

Trump and his team need to figure out how to get his proverbial house in order quick. Otherwise it’s going to be a tumultuous first year for him.

 

And yet, it is the purview of the white house to handle foreign diplomacy. Flynn and Sessions were out of place meeting with foreign diplomats.

 

Congress has an input on Foreign policy, Congress legislates Foreign policy, NOT the Executive, Congress finances Foreign policy, NOT the Executive.

So, NO Flynn and Session were not out of their scope.

 

then what is this

Flashback: Chuck Schumer Meets with Putin in New York City



and this
Nancy Pelosi Met With Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak In 2010
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and even Hush

 

He wasn't. You watched the debates, didn't you?

Trump told Hillary that he would release his taxes when she released the 40,000 emails that she had deleted.

We still haven't seen them. That's what I'm still waiting for.

 

And trump kept changing the criteria that he would use in order to release his returns... Blah blah blah...

Funny how trump is now guilty of using a private email server... It matters not how hypocritical he is being, he's got the likes of you to excuse him at every lie...

 

Trump has been using a private server all his life...I suspect, as Trump has never been in politics.

Are you sure, you're not attempting to throw...Pence, under the bus with your response?

So, the question is, did Pence do something illegal?

Was Pence in a position that jeopardize National Security?

 

what e-mail server show some source....

 

anyone have any answers for this?

 

TIMELINE;

The answer is.....''Silent Coup''.

The final answer is....Trump needs to launch a ''silent investigation'' and hang them all from the gallows.

It's only obvious, they knew Trump was the biggest threat to their agenda, as it turns out, they were correct.